People say LOL lightly. But I literally laughed out loud at this. Thanks for brightening my day. Love the things you do… here and on 1938 Media.

By Sarah Chambers on Jan 8, 2008

michelle,

you guys find the best stuff on the net. i’m not a religious person now (was once) and i’m not against any religion, but i think this is so funny, b/c it’s true that if we follow the book by the word, we’d all be in stone age!

in spirit of non-PC joke, here’s one I heard a while back. Sorry if it’s not funny

“Three guys sitting on a train.

Polish guy takes a bite out of the polish sausage he was having, throws it out of the window in disguise. we got plenty of better ones where I come from.

The Japanese guy looks, takes out his cell phone, throw it out the window and says, we got plenty of these where I come from

The Californian guy looks around, not wanting to feel left out. Picks up the Mexican dude across the aisle and throws him out the window.”

*duck*

By Thomas Han on Jan 8, 2008

I swear I didn’t write that but I wish now I had.

By Jim Turner on Jan 8, 2008

I love this piece. Just stumbled it, you rock. Veronica

By veronica on Jan 8, 2008

Great post. Being religious doesn’t compensate for being stupid. That many people are both is an unfortunate fact of life.

By stumbot on Jan 8, 2008

Great stuff Michelle

By Alan on Jan 8, 2008

I am actually a big fan of Dr. Laura, for her ability to tell people what the need to hear to get them through their situation, not what they need to hear to make them feel better.

I understand that Jew’s religions are very different. And that, I believe the letter was for fun. And that yes, according to the faith, yes you are supposed to follow those guidelines. I’m not a jew myself, nor do i have any strong religion. Well FSM… maybe. Good as any to me.

My point is that flamming mail to a public personality, who is very helpful in giving the striaght information to people who need to hear this to help them through their situation is stupid. I did laugh at the letter, but Dr. Laura is a good person and has helped many get on a right path in their lives. Those who don’t follow what she suggests are foolish.

Now, I’m not saying she’s always right, but if you understand the mindset, and follow it properly, your life and those around you too, will be better. People are selfish, and thats where most people have trouble getting past their problems. So she gives advice on how to be less selfish in most cases. Which selflessness is a virtue, a high virtue at that!

I wont get on the fact of homosexualty. As it’s a matter of opinion on my part. Where I don’t feel it is exactly my place to talk on it.

Again I enjoyed the letter for the fact it wasn’t flame, it wasn’t hate. It was out of fun. But understand for those who want to send hate mail, you have your opinions, why can’t everyone else have theirs (religous or otherwise?) And why do you have to hate them and send them nasty letters in retaliation to the fact their opinion differs from yours?

Now send your hate about my responce, because how many people did I piss off for making my opinion known? (in a constructive way at that.)

By James on Jan 9, 2008

I dig it. Actually, I stumbled it. Hilarious, especially the “how should they die” part. Hee hee.

By Brandon on Jan 9, 2008

hey james… i think you need to grow a sense of humor… seriously man. you are a truly sad case. id even bet you called in to get advice from someone who makes money entertaining people with others problems,

By tom on Jan 9, 2008

James, my friend, I’m sure your opinion is welcome here. But just as she has a right to impose her “superior moral religious propaganda” to her listening audience, we have a right to retaliate any way we see fit. While you may enjoy her show and others like it the fact of the matter is most of the people that call either one, want attention, or two, need “real” help. I highly doubt a 5 minute conversation with a celebrity Doctor is going to make anyones life better, especially one who is so closed minded. Do you like Dr.Phil too?

By Tony on Jan 9, 2008

To James: Being able to stand up and give your opinion is what makes this country great. Dr. Laura obviously has her opinions. Unfortunately, some opinions tread all over the civil rights of others. As far as Dr. Laura is concerned, her opinion is that thousands of people are “abominations”. If this is the “mindset” and we’re supposed to “follow it properly” then we’re all going to be living a lie. The world and this country are full of different types of people. If we follow Lara’s “mindset” then we’ll be nothing more than mindless clones. You can go be a sheep on your own. I’ll be a divorced mother of 3 that has returned to college, living with a man I’m not married to, a pagan, and bisexual to boot! I happen to like being me. I don’t need to conform to her or your idea of the “right” way to live. Can you appreciate my opinion? This isn’t hate I’m sending to you, its my life.

By Wyntyr on Jan 9, 2008

For what it is….it is very, very funny. The sad truth about the whole religious thing is that some folks actually believe it. They believe it to the point that if you don’t, or speak out against it, they will kill you. Muslims seem to be the major killers at the present time but Christians have a history of the same type of behavior..

By Somerset on Jan 9, 2008

I dont know whether Jim took from West Wing or West Wing took from jim, but this is where i have heard most of this letter fist. Some of it is direct quotes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-zhNiGlogQ&feature=related
I love it. LOVE it.

By Melanie on Jan 9, 2008

Actually all this person really did was demonstrate his complete lack of biblical knowledge. The purpose of these laws for ancient Israel was to seperate them from their polytheistic, pluralist neighbors. Their Canaanites neighbors are infamous for rampant sexual indulgence, child sacrifice, drunkenness - not unlike the modern western world.

However, these righteous demands of the law were fulfilled in Christ. Because of his sinless life and his substitutionary death and resurrection, those righteous demands were satisfied. Nevertheless, the moral law still stands and that is how Christians will quote Leviticus 18 as support against supporting the homosexual lifestyle.

Disclaimer: I apologize for any poor spelling or grammer, this comment was written in haste. Moreover, I do not accept the homosexual lifestyle because (1) it goes against the created order (Adam and Eve - Genesis 1, 2) and (2) using evolutionary language, there cannot be survival of the species within homosexual practice. Two men cannot have children, the same goes for two women. HOWEVER, I am vehemently opposed to the maligning, abuse and hatred that comes upon the homosexual community from the hands of so-called “Christians”. I would welcome a gay couple into my home at anytime, but my beliefs about their chosen lifestyle would not keep me from loving them as brothers and from sharing the Gospel with them.

By Jake on Jan 9, 2008

The Bible is the truth. Those of you quoting scriptures out of context, or trying to fit them into a time or place from which they were nto intended does not work. When Jesus Christ came into the world there was a new covenant made between man and God, one that no longer required the sacrifice of bulls, as with the laws of the OT. That is why Christ came to earth because man could not keep the laws. It was impossible to. We need to accept Christ as our saviour to go to Heaven, not lawss! It is true that homosexuality is a sin, and I am against it. However the Bible clearly teaches under the New Covenant that we are to love the man and hate the sin, we no longer stone or burn or kill our fellow man. Judgment is for the One True Judge, the sinless, blameless God. (BTW Jake the evolutionary proof is a little misplaced if you are trying to show the Bible as truth! God created the world in 6 days. Yes six 24hr days! Want some info have a look here http://www.answersingenesis.org/ )

By Jeremy on Jan 9, 2008

@Jeremy:

Which is, of course, why the Ten Commandments no longer apply either. The all-knowing, all-wise God decided that he had been wrong for the last few hundred years, and decided to correct his glaring error by writing a new and improved book.

By Philip on Jan 9, 2008

There were not 10 commandments . There were 6 if i recall right . The stone tablet with 10 things wrote on it was NOT the commandments.

Anywho . End fascism kill a Christian .

By Mindless on Jan 9, 2008

Religion’s main purpose is to make life better. Personally, I think people get much too caught up in the specifics of it all to get the true message. Awesome letter.

By Travis on Jan 9, 2008

It is pretty funny how most “religious fanatics” are so often drawn to dwell on a small number of specific passages in the bible… and you’re just plain nuts if you take anything in Leviticus seriously… that is widely known as the strangest book in the bible. Great joke.

By lynstly on Jan 9, 2008

Everything in that letter was done “tongue in cheek”. Why don’t we read it as it is, as a funny article, rather than getting all up tight a

By Bob on Jan 9, 2008

Isn’t it nice that god created humans that are born sinful? That makes no sense whatsoever. And that is why I am atheist (well actually its just a minor contributing point among thousands).

By Cole Kerr on Jan 9, 2008

def agree with travis… im Christian and i think letter is great i dont think its really necessary to get all angry about it…. read the headline “only read this if you have a sense of humor”

By lyse on Jan 9, 2008

I think a few people have a little too much sand in their vaginas.

By Jesus on Jan 9, 2008

Jeremy says “The Bible is the truth.” So I was just wondering if he believes in Unicorns because the according to this 2000 year old book which he says is all true and factual, Job 39:9 states “Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?” And again Job 39:10 “Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?” Just curious, get back to me on that one please Jeremy.

By Max on Jan 9, 2008

i kind of agree with jesus, if not just to be able to say that statement. not a… pleasant way to express that thought, though.

more so i agree with travis. that couldn’t be more well put.

i am not religious myself, but i am not ‘against religon’ or anything. there are… like… three WHOLE THINGS that religion does that is good.

(number one)- instant community of friends and moral support.

(number two)- moral values and stuff

(number three)- for people who need it, the feeling of less control/pressure (or a higher power)

UNFORTUNATELY there are plenty of things that religion does wrong… (authority/power to corrupt forces, a feeling of superiority, WARS, etc.) and to me…. the cons outweigh the pros.

btw, NONE OF THIS was what that letter was about. it was poking fun at someone who takes the readings a bit to literal, and on top of that, took personal beliefs and tried to push them on others. she might not of tried to, but that is how she came off.

-shoo (wah) out!

p.s. this is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R didn’t exist

By shoo on Jan 9, 2008

The post asks, no warns about HAVING A SENSE OF HUMOR!!!

By veronica on Jan 9, 2008

1. This was hysterical.
2. The ‘Christians’ who claim to know what God, the bible, and J.C. ‘really means’ are worse than the clowns who still believe the Earth is flat.
3. You were warned about the sense of humor, but many of you read it anyway.
4. It would be nice to imagine Dr. Laura would read this, realize how many lives she has actually harmed over the years, and change her self-rightious ways.
5. If Christians really paid attention to what J.C. seemed to be truly about, if they really stood behind their so-called faith and beliefs,
we would impeach bush/cheney tomorrow!
(AND bring them up on charges!)

By SUsan2 on Jan 10, 2008

I love how so many people ignored the fact that this was a JEWISH talk show host. NOT CHRISTIAN, so in effect all these laws are valid.

So to say Jesus anywhere in this conversation is basically saying that you don’t respect the fact that we’re talking about the jewish religion.

By Hugo on Jan 10, 2008

hi. Nice article. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Thanks for sharing

By Editor, The SciTech Journal on Jan 10, 2008

Its so funny that people can quote some uneducated idiot that saw a light in his field 2000 years ago and say it is truth, but when I call the US Airforce about those flashing lights over my house at night… Oh, I’m sorry, am I changing the subject?

By Medic on Jan 10, 2008

ok. i dont live by the bible or the torah. i am a jew which means that the old testament is my book.
@Jeremy:
You said that the bible was the truth. this statement depends on your belief. i do agree however, that the many people who try to use the context in todays society are full of crap. You then start to talk about when Jesus came into the world. This is more your book so you may know more about it than me but not all of the old laws and commandments were just disregarded. it wasnt like “oh look a new book, lets go create chaos”. Then you told me to embrace Jesus. This is preposterous. You cant tell me what to believe. it is my own choice and just because YOU think it is a good idea doesnt mean everyone has to agree with you. But wait! Then you stated that God created the world in 6 days and on he 7th day he rested. You express this as 6 24hr days. This is BS. This is let me remind you, my book. You trying to interpret it doesnt explain anything. The reference to god creating the world in 7 days do not mean 7 24 hour days you concrete fool. No one alive today lived that long ago. A day back then could have been decades in todays understanding of the word “day”. and the link you gave… dont believe everything you see on the internet. A 9 year old can make a website nowadays. i could argue for ours on this topic and suggest you never post here again.

By the way, the letter is awesome and quite funny.

By Poke on Jan 10, 2008

i bloody love it. more ammunition for when the jehovah’s come-a-knocking.

great laugh and oh so true - cheers again

By dave on Jan 10, 2008

The history of the afore mentioned letter by Dr Laura is explained in detail at http://www.snopes.com and her nude photos can be seen on many sites on the internet. Apparently she has not always been the prig that she has become.

By Somerset on Jan 10, 2008

AWESOME! Your hot

By Jason Bates - Lushable.com on Jan 10, 2008

You have to love the Article.

I am not sure which is more hilarious, the letter itself or all the ridiculus banter in all the comments. Every response from the religious fanatics made the letter even more true. Every response from the supporters defending the legitimacy of the letter made me feel as though people in the world may some day look at me as a person rather than a demographic.

I greatly respect the Jewish religion for it’s unique monotheistic structure. It was a gathering place during times of turmoil. However, it is also a tribal religion containing doctrine of unoriginal material, ie the flood and such.

The most interesting thing of all is that the Jewish people believe that the righteous of any culture have a place in the next life. I am still a good person even if I am considered a sexual deviant. And besides, are all you Christians attacking homosexuals all celibate until you are married and only fornicate when the result is to be with child?

Throwing stones is a sinful act. Along with bigotry.

Jesus didn’t mean for us to get technical, just to love. Besides - none of the books of the new testament, save for Revelations, is well none not to have been written instill 300 years after the death of Christ. Humans error, the bible seems to be a business to keep minorities down, objectify women, damn anything different, and ultimately to control the world. At least that is what 2000 years of history has shown us. It is all a bit to heavy for me.

There get mad over that!, haha you can’t its the truth.

By Kyle on Jan 10, 2008

Haha! Like we need any sort of survival of the species. We’re already overpopulating the earth. I fucking love gay people. You know why? They are evolution’s away of population control.

By Ian on Jan 11, 2008

I think, on the homosexuality part, that one important thing to note is that one could kick and scream and send me to therapy all he or she wanted and I’d still be gay.

And I like it that way.

Great letter, had me ROFLing all the way through!
I’m a Canadian! I want to be owned! It’s not fair!

By Kyle M. on Jan 11, 2008

Shoo wrote:

“UNFORTUNATELY there are plenty of things that religion does wrong… (authority/power to corrupt forces, a feeling of superiority, WARS, etc.) and to me…. the cons outweigh the pros.”

Sounds like government too. So maybe, The set that includes people of religion and the set in which people are controlled by a government are the bad ones here. But then, who is left?

Chris

By Chris on Jan 11, 2008

Re the West Wing connection:

From Entertainment Weekly 10/26/2000: Refreshingly candid exec producer Aaron Sorkin admits he lifted the diatribe from a much forwarded anonymous email. . . . Sorkin, who hoped to give credit, says they ”cast a fairly wide net, but we didn’t find the author.”

By baba on Jan 11, 2008

Some people have not read the bible, there are some absolutes in Gods Word - homosexuality is one. Second the Old Testament laws predominantly belong to the Jews of that period. Lastly God gave away out in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord. It is your choice to believe in Gods son our not, but that does not change were he stands on certain issues.

PS God never like the burning of bulls, look it up in the New Testament.

By Dennis on Jan 11, 2008

And people say that americans don’t understand sarcasm…..

love it

By Joe on Jan 11, 2008

Ok, so she doesn’t say to kill the homosexuals, she just says that it’s an abomination, so comparing it with things like killing your mother for wearing polyester blend shirts is a little dumb.

Anyway, I did think the mail was pretty funny (and yes quite stolen from the west wing show), but it should be ok for dr. laura to express her opinion on something, she isn’t telling people to kill gays she’s just saying that she believes that it is wrong.

I’m not defending her because I like her, I think she’s a crackpot personally.

By rockytriton on Jan 11, 2008

I don’t know whether I laughed more at the original post or the comments. I feel really bad for those who took this so seriously. Lighten up.

By Tricia on Jan 11, 2008

I agree full heartily that following a religious life-style strictly will completely strip you of having an open-mind and freedom.

I enjoyed the letter thoroughly, and hope one day people will follow their own footsteps and not enforce others on how they should follow their own.

By Sean on Jan 11, 2008

Honestly, I think that this is one of the most intelligent and witty things I have ever read in my entire life. The author truly understood that we live in the 21st century, and although we have no right to judge the past through the eyes of the present, and for all we know those laws may have reflected the best wisdom of the time, we also have no right to judge the present through the eyes of the past. I honestly hope that people will learn to be tolerant. Unfortunately, on the other hand, there is one thing that we should not tolerate, and that is ignorance, willful or otherwise. one should try to educate people whenever they can, and have them understand things that have been proven time and time again. YES evolution exists. YES the world is over 4 billion years old. you cannot simply allow people to believe wrong things because its what they believe, as if you keep a mind to open, things will begin to fall out. I’m not saying that when someone disagrees with you, then you have to convince them otherwise. What i am saying is that you have to convince people otherwise when what they are saying is in direct defiance of hundreds of years of studying and intellectual thought. for example, you have to convince people that two of every animal in the world wouldn’t fit on any boat, much less be within walking distance from Noah’s house. The bible is not meant to be taken literally, it is a metaphor, and more than that, it is not, i repeat, NOT infallible. It did not arrive in a fax from heaven, but from mortal men, over hundreds of years, with many of the laws and stories having been undoubtably corrupted by word of mouth before being committed to paper. Basically, what im trying to say is that you cannot follow everything that people have said in the past, or take a metaphoric story literally. you have to open your eyes, and follow your own path, and make your own decisions, to truly be a good person.

By Daniel on Jan 12, 2008

Wow, just noticed this thread. I saw this “open letter” a few years ago and what really struck me about it then (and often does at times like this) isn’t so much the intolerance cited in the letter, it’s the contempt and barely concealed hatred that the author has for the person’s religion.

Someone earlier in the comments referred to Christians killing people because they disagreed with them. Sure, OK, that was what, 500 years ago and more? We have moved on. Dr. Laura may well be an obnoxious twit (wouldn’t know, I don’t listen to her show), but dissecting the Old Testament piece by piece doesn’t really make her look like an idiot. It just displays the author’s religious baggage for everyone to see.

By jvon on Jan 13, 2008

There are so many things that I would like to say here, but, alas, I fear it would destroy in the intended humor within this article.

First off, let me say that I have seen this several times, all over the internet, and it never stops being funny. I laughed really hard when I read it for the first time, and I still smile (sometimes giggle) ever time I read it. It is very witty, sarcastic, and intelligent. The author put a lot of effort into this. For that, I give the author kudos.

More than that, however, I believe it is good because it strikes home on several logical fallacies in contemporary religions (Christianity, mainly). As a former Christian, I have great insight into the world of Christianity. I was raised in a *Christian* home, and have been active in churches all of my life, and I have even attended a Christian school for the last eight years. Judah Christian is a non-denominational Christian school which teaches grades Pre-K through 12. I am currently a High School Senior at Judah.

Now, I have been through all of the Christian events, such as Church Youth Groups, Spiritual Retreats, Vacation Bible Schools, etc, etc. For several years, I have begun to feel uneasy about certain events, but I still believed in God, and therefore believed that all of the problem was within me. Perhaps I was not trying hard enough…

Anyways, a few months ago, I began losing my faith, bit-by-bit, as a number of circumstances began to shape the person I am. Mainly, I began taking World Views, which is a somewhat philosophical class, which, surprisingly enough, is taught in an unbiased way, and which got me thinking heavily on existence and the meaning of life. The second event was my brother’s death in a car accident, which began took my loss of faith from a gradual decline to rock-bottom. At this point, I am a self-declared athiest. Well, perhaps more of an Agnostic. I agree that the existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved. However, I do not *believe* in his existence.

Within the past month, I have been watching a lot of media associated with modern Evangelical Christianity, such as Jesus Camp (which is a real eye-opener. I recommend this to everyone!), and I began thinking about my own experiences in this lifestyle, and how similar they are. It is really frightening, especially how I once considered all of these things to be normal, and now I see that they are anything but normal. Like I said, it is rather frightening.

Anyways, if anyone would like to email me and discuss my views on religion and Christianity, or if you would like to simply spam my inbox with messages detailing my eternity spent in hell, my email address is:
live_and_die_for_freedom@yahoo.com

By Cody G (Lord of Numa) on Jan 13, 2008

I for one am glad to see things such as this. It exposes the hypocrisy of the people who still choose to believe in a fictional book. It amuses me to see people who claim to be knowledgeable about christianity yet they know nothing about where the stories in their bible come from. They are ignorant to the fact that so many of the legends in the bible have been taken from the pagans who came before them. Things like this show that we are trying to come out of another dark ages and we will not let someone’s beliefs rule our life. There are people who deny reality and claim the bible is all factual and I really feel sorry for them. Look at the biblical flood. bible scholars have tried to claim the great flood happened approx. 2450 BC Well the problem with that is we know the Egyptians were building pyramids long before that and long after. Wouldn’t they have at least mentioned something about the entire earth being flooded? Not to mention the Global flood story was taken straight from the legend of Gilgamesh. The contradictions and theft from previous religions are all over the bible for anyone who cares to look. If people want to believe in their bible fine, But keep it in perspective and don’t try to use it to legislate your views upon everyone else. Theocracies don’t work Ask the Taliban about that.

By Rick on Jan 13, 2008

I just *knew* that politics would eventually come into this. *SIGH*

The piece was hilarious, btw

By Susan on Jan 14, 2008

1. I’m a Christian.
2. The letter was funny and clever.
3. Lighten up people. You can be a Believer and
not be threatened when people think
differently than you do.
4. Love one another.
5. Laugh together!

By Sandy on Jan 14, 2008

One Christianity has not stripped my mind, I am still open to ideas, allot more so then some scientists! Second if you do not reject Jesus Christ (and thus God)then you can do what ever you want, including homosexuality. My belief in Christ makes that still wrong and I do not want any one to end up in hell. So I must preach Gods word so all will know. Extreme radical any thing, whether Christian, Muslim, Taliban, Agnostic, Christian Science, so on is always dangerous. This does not reduce the message of majority who have good intentions.

By Dennis on Jan 14, 2008

Let me get this straight… Dr. Laura says this, & she’s a religious whacko to be ridiculed… so, what does that make all the muslim extremists who want to destroy western civilization???

By 001jeff on Jan 15, 2008

Here’s the thing the idiot who sent this in doesn’t realize. When Jesus came to die for our sins, a lot of the Old Testament rules and such were abolished. Of course Jews don’t believe in that. What they should realize, though, is that most of the Old Testament laws are regarding cleanliness to prevent disease.

1. Animal sacrifice is no longer necessary after the sacrifice Jesus made.

2. The “slavery” mentioned in the Bible is actually a form of servitude. What we as Americans think of slavery as is a lot different than what the original translation is. The original Hebrew word would refer more to a maid or butler rather than what we think of as slaves. Don’t be so narrow-minded.

3. Women who are on their period are considered “unclean” because, duh, they expel blood and other bodily parts. Back then conditions were hardly sanitary; now that most of us live in sanitary conditions and have sanitary was of disposing of bodily fluids, this no longer applies.

4. Where does the Bible say that we can judge other people for their beliefs? If someone wants to work on the Sabbath, fine; they obviously are not an Orthodox Jew, so one has no business in telling them how to run their lives.

5. Shellfish and homosexuality both have to do with cleanliness. No sanitation back then.

6. the Altar of God was a place where only very prestigious priests could go. Honestly, when was the last time YOU ever visited an Altar of God?

7. Refer to #4.

8. Again a sanitation issue. Touching dead things back then spread disease; pigs in particular carry a very deadly tapeworm that can be very easily transmitted (i.e. onto the fingers and then into the mouth while eating), and can kill someone pretty fast. Processed and cleaned pigskin isn’t an issue, although actually footballs are made from cowhide. Shows how knowledgeable this idiot is.

9. The two different crop ban was in case of a crop disease; if one crop was affected, other crops would still be ok, and there would be little change of a new disease emerging through crossing with other crop diseases. Using two fabrics in the same cloth is similar; there are lots of rules in the old testament regarding mold and how to get rid of it. Creating a new kind of mold would be dangerous to one’s health. For the last bit, refer to #4.

This sure seems intelligent if you don’t know a thing about the Bible, but really all it does is preach to the masses of idiots that claim to know everything. I really wish I could find whoever originally wrote this so I can set them straight. People need to be more educated on the Bible in general. Looking over the comments I can really see just how Bible-stupid people really are…sad.

By Bliggityblag on Jan 15, 2008

@Bliggityblag:

Way to show the love of Christ there, man! Kudos to you for showing us just how caring and accepting Christians are!

Assholes like you are part of the reason that I abandoned my faith. Christianity is the religion of hypocrisy.

By Cody (L of N) on Jan 15, 2008

Truly, it is depressing when ones faith is so shaky that it can be threatened by mere words. Those among you like “bliggityblag” honestly depress me. You really have that much of an issue with people having opinions opposed to yours? Dennis, please, you can believe whatever the hell you ant, but preachy makes people specifically not believe. I should know, i went to an elementary school where every day for 8 years I had to attend church, and let me tell you, that did not strengthen my beliefs, but actually weakened them, so i no longer am as religious as I once was (though i still believe in God). I may be christian as well, but when people like you preach to me about my beliefs and why they are wrong, it pushes me further to atheism. Sandy, you are amazing, and I love your open-mindedness. You are exactly what a Christian should be: loving, open-minded, and pertain to the simple beliefs and lifestyles you should have. If you don’t believe, thats perfectly fine, but if you do, then please be open minded (see my earlier commment) and at least don’t be hateful and preachy.

By Daniel on Jan 15, 2008

@Bliggityblab

2 things

A) It was a letter meant to be humorous. READ THE WARNING, and either don’t read it or get a sense of humor

and

B) Exactly what “bodily parts” do I excrete during my period? I mean I never lost a leg because during “that time of the month”

Take a chill pill, dude!

By Blackrose on Jan 16, 2008

I say this not to be an ass, but because it honestly seems this way - a lot of people just have a chip on shoulder about some Christians they’ve encountered. For instance Cody saying “Assholes like you are part of the reason that I abandoned my faith.” or Daniel saying, “it pushes me further to atheism.” I got one question, is it good thinking to make a decision about God based on self-proclaimed ambassadors of God rather than God himself? Because casting a judgment based on the ambassadors is what you’re doing.

8 years or even 18 years of being dragged to church aren’t worth a single read of the Bible cover to cover. You might be surprised at what you find, like how it states parents can’t force their children into Christianity but should only give admonishing advice. It’s not God’s fault your mother didn’t take that to heart, even though I hope you won’t always be bitter about it. And Cody will find that God seriously does not like hypocrisy, perhaps because the apparent affect of it we see here. God does not condone it all.

People with defects weren’t supposed to sacrifice their bread to alter of God, but rather were privileged and got to keep and eat their bread “of the Holy, and of the most Holy.” Framed to be cruel but the exact opposite. Things are taken out of context, and many clearly don’t apply anymore that I would love to bore you about, one-by-one. Not by picking and choosing what I like, but just by what is plain and clear like how we don’t have to make offering to atone for sin like during the old covenant(aka old testament) God had specifically with the Jewish people so obviously there aren’t any alters to burn a bull at anyway. What I’m begging for is that people don’t take it more than a joke without really reading it for themselves.

I’m also humbly asking you not to be too harsh on people who try to refute this stuff. This is posted quite often on the web to be taken as a very serious argument that Christianity is cruel and believers are irrational, stupid people. In other words, people don’t just take it as humor, but they actually believe in the stuff deeply.
I doubt the internet community, some in this very same topic, would find it hilarious and defend so vehemently for the sake of humor a piece from creation scientists ripping things out of context to make atheism look silly. And if they really care about what they believe, why would they? Maybe they should even get a little mad about it.

I’m not trying to preach or be snooty, because I know I’m not any better than anyone, and I likewise don’t appreciate people pressing their ideologically charged BS on me. It’s not that my faith is shaky, but rather the bad it brings out in people on both sides that I can’t help but groan over.

By A Regular Shmoe on Jan 17, 2008

@A Regular Shmoe

Religion doesn’t just bring the bad on people, it also corrupts government, starts wars (like the ‘tiny’ ones in the Middle-East), stymies education, and divides the people. The human race was not meant to be divided by religion, gender, sexual orientation, and race.

I’m not being dramatic or preachy either, I’m merely pointing out the facts.

By Cole Kerr on Jan 17, 2008

http://www.alexparsons.co.uk/blog/2007/12/22/disagreeing-with-someone-isn%e2%80%99t-being-intolerant-folks/#comment-3396

Read that btw, Shmoe.

There are very few militant atheists, because our disagreement with religion doesn’t drive us to shoot people with AK-47’s like they do in the middle-east, or draw swatstikas on Jewish people after beating the crap out of them, or making riots against homosexuality, complete with pickboards, and very pathetic preaching/bible-quoting.

I don’t have a problem with people who believe in a religion, only those who enforce its rules and make it the center of their principles. I have several friends who are religious, and I respect them because they don’t constantly talk about their religion, or try to force it on anyone. People who separate themselves from their religion the most have the purest principles, not biased ones.

By Cole Kerr on Jan 17, 2008

Religion is OK, it is handy to get people to do the best things for themselves by claiming higher authority. Also, we can’t do anything about homos because of evolution/greater good. Forcing them to reproduce would harm them and their offspring mentally. Regarding old testament, it was written over 3,000 years ago. Most Jews even have a council to update it, as we know more about most things now.
Jesus was a cool guy, if we can all accept that he died for our sins Whether of not he is divine is a very loving thing. God may not be real, but is anything true? Try to influence others, but try to stop at hate. both atheists, theists, agnostics(woot) and ancestor worshippers can agree that love is the true Way, Middle Path, Jihad, etc.

By cheeseface on Jan 18, 2008

sorry about spelling. line 8 is as follows:

Whether or not he is divine, sacrificing himself was a loving thing.

By cheeseface on Jan 18, 2008

are you an idiot cheeseface? Homosexuals can’t reproduce, they can only adopt or if they are lesbians they can go to the sperm bank. BTW if god can do anything why did Jesus had to die for our sins? couldn’t God just wipe off the slate? Or did the whole thing have to be dramatic?

By Cole Kerr on Jan 18, 2008

Homosexuals can’t reproduce? I’ll have to tell my son that when he gets home from school.
“Sorry kiddo, you don’t exist.”

By Daniel on Jan 19, 2008

Um ya Daniel, sorry to say, but just in case you didn’t take biology, to sperm don’t make a baby, and neither do two eggs.

By Cole Kerr on Jan 19, 2008

I believe what Daniel meant was that homosexuals can physically reproduce. Yes, two men or two women cannot mate and produce offspring, but there is such a thing as a surrogate mother, and adoption. Daniel has a son; for all we know, he artificially inseminated to produce the child.

What I believe cheeseface was referring to was forcing, say, a gay man and a lesbian woman to mate in order to create a child, and if that is the case, then I would agree that it would damage them physiologically, or in their brain. A child growing up in this environment would also be damaged. He isn’t an idiot. Please keep an open mind when replying.

I look forward to a thought-out, grammatically correct response to my comment, whether in favor or otherwise.

-Jake

By Jake D. on Jan 20, 2008

Well, for any of you who have never actually read the Bible (most of you based on your comments) there is an important difference between the Old and New covenants. Most of these weird rules stated in this article were true of the culture to which they were written. However, a very important man, Jesus (you may have heard of Him before) came and established a new covenant and made many of these old rules unnecessary. But, with regard to Homosexuality specifically, it was wrong under the Old Testament and the New Testament. So, yes saying the Bible condemns it is a fair reason for arguing against it and no it is not necessary to also follows these other rules in Leviticus. I hope this helps many of you who may have a deep misunderstanding of what the Bible actually says and means.

-Matt

By matthew on Jan 21, 2008

Sheesh! I can’t leave you kids alone for a minute, can I? A funny letter sure stimulated a bunch of bloviation.

I do have to make one comment. Back on January 9th, 2008 at 11:41 am Jake said,

“Two men cannot have children.”

And yet Jesus had two daddies. . .

By Dean Barnett on Jan 22, 2008

Re Post 71.

Jesus did not have to two dads, he only one. God has three distinct personalities in the form of God the father, Jesus (the Word of God), and the Holy Spirit.

By Dennis on Jan 23, 2008

I see now. Thank you Jake for explaining, I apologize for being so close-minded.

@Dennis

So Jesus was his own father? What a coincidence! So is the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

By Cole Kerr on Jan 23, 2008

Your bibles ( Old and New Testament ) are too inconsistent not only with each other, but with themselves to be plausible. Science has evidence that exists today, and is always consistent. If something is inconsistent, it is researched and changed so that it is. The only reason that religion still exists today is because people choose to blindly believe it as they were told to by their parents. Religion makes people close-minded and biased, which makes them look arrogant and uneducated. An example of this was a few days ago when I chose to judge someone without thinking through what they were saying.

By Cole Kerr on Jan 23, 2008

Why don’t all of you stop arguing about every little thing. I have my own personal religious beliefs which I talk to people about, but
I don’t try to enforce my religion on anyone. I strongly believe in my religion and will until I die. I’m a Southern Redneck Texan but live in California ( Love living where I do )so having said that let’s all ” Have a Good Day “. O’ by the way some of you need to learn how to spell, use the spell checker on your computer if you have one, or get a dictionary. (Ha Ha Hee Hee) I can’t wait to see the comments to this comment.
I’v raised 4 children, took them to church. None of them attend church, that’s there problem. I still LOVE ALL 4 OF THEM.
Have a Good Day!!!

By Dad on Jan 24, 2008

that is funny!!
but if you are bashing her because she uses the Old Testament answer to the homosexual question, then let me use a New Testament answer to the homosexual question. The “religious” leaders of the old days kept asking Jesus questions to test His wisdom and see if they could trip Him up in His words… kinda like this post here… anyways, they asked Him about divorce and remarriage and He asked them what the old law said. They replied that a man should make a document for his wife and then they could be separate. Jesus said, Let every man have ONE WIFE. He did not say let every man chose a husband and/or a wife, He did not say let every woman take as many husbands as she pleased and then sleep with other women. He said one wife to one man and one man to one wife.
Well… I hope I did not offend anyone by my words, if I did then I apologize, only if you find any wrong in my thoughts. (spelling is not a wrong to hold against me lol)
God bless!!

By Ant on Jan 24, 2008

Um, guys? Dr. Laura’s Jewish. The person writing this letter to her is talking about Jewish views on these things. The New Testament plays no roll in it because–surprise!–it’s not relevant to Jews.

By Sam on Jan 27, 2008

That’s funny. My Canadian, Pierre, is quite nice. He cooks a mean angus steak, and makes his own maple syrup.

By Freddy on Feb 1, 2008

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.”

It must not matter to a Christian whether his neighbor is atheist, homosexual, or Muslim. What must matter to a Christian is that he ought to love his creator and his neighbors.

By Anna on Feb 2, 2008

I, too, wonder where I can find the Moabites, that I might smite them down.

By kitzwilly on Feb 4, 2008

I’ve owned those from a neighboring country…it was no walk in the park.

By Jean-Pierre on Feb 12, 2008

Over time I realized the internet is not a place to just squabble over religion or lack of religion. There is no point to it. Nothing is accomplished, and you don’t feel better after that. This is my mantra: “Whether or not you believe in God, you should live your life with love, kindness, compassion, mercy and tolerance while trying to make the world a better place. If there is no God, you have lost nothing and will have made a positive impact on those around you. If there is a benevolent God reviewing your life, you will be judged on your actions and not just on your ability to blindly believe when there is a significant lack of evidence of his/her existence.”

By Cole Kerr on Feb 13, 2008

btw I am also interested in smiting some Moabites, where is this neighboring country, Jean?

By Cole Kerr on Feb 13, 2008

I have no opinion on this.

By Lawrence on Mar 27, 2008

Thank you for sharing that with us

By Richard on Mar 27, 2008